HBL Induction by Thomas M. Miovas, Jr. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Note: I'm combining several posts on induction in this one reply. > Would a "circular induction" be one in which a directly perceivable inductive truth (or one of which one is directly aware) is attempted to be validated by means of referring to something not directly perceivable (or one of which one is not directly aware)? As an example: There are those who seem to want to validate the nature of consciousness by means of referring to specific scientific knowledge, such as the nature of neurons (and their components). Since we can only be aware of neurons by means of our consciousness, and only after a long line of inductive inquiry (requiring actively using our consciousness to study the brain), this is an attempt to validate something we already have direct access to -- our consciousness. Does that make it circular? Another example would be in trying to validate sight by means of the electromagnetic theory of light. Concerning induction and propositions: >different types of proposition: > >1. Subsumption: "Dogs are animals" >2. Differentiation: "Dogs are not cats" >3. Attribution(?): "Dogs are big" >4. Action: "Dogs bark" >5. Relationship(?): "Dogs are bigger than snails" > >It's particularly action that I have difficulty with.> Perhaps the difficulty arises because you have accepted the idea that in order to get the cause of something one has to go one level down (re the previous thread on causality -- i.e. to know the cause of water boiling, one has to know something about its molecular structure). I understand the Objectivist position on causality to mean that it is perceptually self-evident, insofar as we perceive entities acting. In other words, the validation that the nature of the water is the cause of its boiling is that we perceive the water acting -- i.e. boiling, when it is under the right circumstances. In one inductive sweep, we perceive the entity and we perceive it acting (for those entities we can perceive, and when these are acting; the water in the pot being the entity in this case.) So, a proposition like "Dogs bark," is one in which the totality of the inductions (the perceptions of a dogs barking) is separated out so as to be integrated according to perceived similarities -- entities to entities and actions to actions -- but can be retained as a whole, because it was perceived as a whole (if we are talking about each incident of a dog barking). However, there is no similarity between dog and barking (or any other entity and its action), so we can't form a concept that would be the (hypothetical) equivalent of: dogbarking. I think some primitive tribes have languages that attempt to do this, but their vocabulary becomes overwhelming and violates the crow tremendously. If you can imagine a (hypothetical) single concept for each of the following: dogbarking, bigblondedogbarking, blackpoodlescrathing, redbirdflying, etc. Several modern languages do something like this, such as some words in English and cumbersome run-on words in German, but these are really a combination of two (or more) concepts that can be retained precisely because the root concepts(s) are previously know and can be isolated out for analysis. Try recasting the above (hypothetical) concepts as: gobinzig, trubik, ospile, lulo etc. and a different and unrelated concept for each entity and each of its actions, and you will see the difficulty. What a proposition such as "Dogs bark" does is to put back together (to re-integrate) the one perceivable event into a whole. Measurement omission comes into play because we don't specify, in this simple proposition, the details about what type of dog it is or what type of barking it is doing. Philosophic essays based on the philosophy of Ayn Rand http://www.appliedphilosophyonline.com Applied Philosophy Online .com Where Ideas Are Brought Down to Earth! All rights reserved